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New seagate hard drive reads “full”

I just received a new Seagate internal hard drive for my MacBook Pro. When I started to install from a time machine back up off my external drive through disc utilities, The new internal drive was reading that it was full. It only let me delete all information if I created a sub drive. Then the sun drive showed as being empty and let me install from time machine. Also my keyboard was nonresponsive during this time. I eventually ended up getting it to format and back up, but is this how a new drive is supposed to work?

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Lets back up here...

What is the size of your original drive? Also what is the model and size of the Seagate you are putting in.

How did you prep the drive and did you first install a fresh copy of the OS before trying to restore the TimeMachine backup.

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Old 340 GB new 1TB.

Server at Ifixit is down but they only have the one Unformatted Seagate Drive that’s hybrid SATA. I did nothing to prep the drive. I booted the laptop holding option key and got into disk utility. Thanks for the help if you can

ST1000LX015

Hybrid technology from Seagate combines SSD and traditional hard drive technology to provide SSD speeds from an affordable high capacity hard drive. Adaptive Memory technology keeps the files and file types you access the most ready and available for instant transfer from SSD.

No software or operating system requirements, Adaptive Memory technology is self-contained and works like any SATA drive.

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Your systems specs: MacBookPro6,2 Here's the discreet specs of the top model MacBook Pro 15" 2.8 GHz i7 (Mid-2010)

Storage Interface: Serial ATA (3 Gb/s)

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Sadly there’s an error in the iFixit store. The 2.5” FireCuda drive is not able to be used in your system. What happened is Seagate upgraded the drive awhile ago and the error was not caught. Most people have SATA III (6.0 Gb/s) systems now, so the few times older systems pop up that are upgrading is far fewer.

So what is the issue??

The older drive Seagate Laptop SSHD ST1000LM014 offered support for all versions of SATA (review the Interface line in the spec sheet) Now the newer Seagate FireCuda ST1000LX015 no longer offers support for the older SATA specs.

The best way to think of this is the older drive is like a car with an automatic transmission able to magically go to the best gear for the road. Here the newer drive only has one speed and has no means to run at the needed slower speed. I use the terms Auto Vs Fixed speed to delineate the difference. You can get older drives with are Fixed speed SATA I (1.5 Gb/s) or SATA II (3.0 Gb/s) as well. Some older SATA III (6.0 Gb/s) drives offered a jumper to allow you to run in what was called compatibility mode, basically running at SATA I (1.5 Gb/s).

Personally, I was very upset when Seagate dropped support for SATA II in this series as I loved the drive for people like you!

For now if you can find the older Seagate ST1000LM014 you’ll be golden!

Or, you’ll need to jump to a SSD as none of the current 2.5” disk drives (HDD or SSHD) being produced offer SATA II support any more.

As you are hearing from me you need to look at the given drives spec sheet to make sure SATA II (3.0 Gb/s) is listed, if its not it won’t work reliably as you have found out here.

I’m sorry you fell into the hole. Contact the Fixit store to get a refund.

Look at Samsung EVO as a good choice if you decide to jump to a SSD.

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Dan, You=ROCKSTAR

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Dale - Thanks! Sorry it didn't workout.

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Amazon has the old seagate model ST1000LM014 for $56.

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you could have said that in Albanian and I would have understood it as much as I did.

Thanks to both of you for the help though. Hopefully for $100 I’ll be able to nurse another couple years out of this laptop.

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I even think my go to WD Black drives did the same thing @danj :(. I don't see SATA I/II on the newer ones like the old ones. Even Blue isn't safe.

The death of SATA I/II compatibility is why I decided to get a newer system that’s safe to get any drive I want when it needs to be replaced. My older Mac had no future with the way I/II compatibility is going.

Not everyone can afford it, but if you have the money available it’s usually better to get a newer system that’s older, but still usable. The problem is these drives will only get harder to find over time, so if you can replace the system as a unit now, that’s the way to go so you can put the matter to bed for good.

For you, my recommendations are as follows:

  • If you need the GPU, get a 2012 15”. It might need a new SATA cable, but if you ship with a 3.5” drive and it’s OEM you’re probably okay. Doesn’t hurt to check with a second or third set of eyes though. SATA III cable part number: 923-0084
  • If you can live without a GPU, 2011 13” (2012 SATA cable required when the drive is replaced) or a 2012 13” (See 15” 2012 for drive cable advice) SATA III cable part number: 821-2049-A

If you can find a drive, cool - buy it but put money aside for a 2011/12 13” or a 2012 15”. These are NOS and may not be replaced with a matching drive, so you may be left out cold should you get a Fixed SATA III replacement through the RMA process. Get a lead now so you can retire the machine with no downtime if at all possible and run it until the drive fails and you can no longer get compatible drives or the RMA swap is a fixed speed drive.

Once the drives die on these (or show signs of failure), that tends to be the end of the machine unless you can find an older drive that’s still available new because of this :(. Once the signs show up, pull your data odd and brace for the cost of a newer system should they be expensive (and nearly unobtainable) or just aren’t in stock anymore.

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Surprisingly, there are still a lot of older drives floating around (mostly SATA II) . But alas they are older, smaller & slower drives. Which is why I liked the SSHD drives.

Marketing pressures does set the stage on what a given company produces.

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I still think it's better to try and secure a machine with a future if you have the money to do so, but if you can get a backward compatible drive as NOS and it's cheap, go for it. I shouldn't be in the position I am in where I need to tell people with old hardware to retire it while they're ahead, but I have to.

Not sure why marketing pressure warrants killing off legacy compatibility. It's just a dumb move disguised as a way to speed the current drives up when it doesn't do anything but limit options to replace small or failed drives for systems like this one.

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Mostly its to be price competitive!

All of the 2011 MacBook Pro's need a new SATA cable if you go with a newer SATA III drive and some early 2012 models also need it as Apple didn't put the faster SATA III drives in until mid stream of the run.

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What a stupid reason to cut legacy compatibility.

@danj I'm presuming 2012 is inspect the system, but be prepared for the worst. The 2011's almost all need it done, so it should be presumed needed since these are all SATA II from the factory with a SATA III motherboard.

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