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Released alongside the AirPort Extreme base station, this hard drive equipped variant offers 802.11ac speed on a time capsule NAS.

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How do I Upgrade the new AirPort A1470 to SSD?

I don't care for 2TB of storage and would like a reliable SSD in there instead. Can I upgrade the new airport to SSD?

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Can you explain your reasoning for doing this? While it can be done, I do wonder if its worth it. Given the limit of storage size and placement on a slower interconnect (the internal SATA connection of the system is the fastest), Network attached storage (either Ethernet or WiFi 802.11ac) is the slowest choice with Thunderbolt being in the ideal external connection (replacing FireWire).

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As to the question on reliability between a HD Vs SSD storage. I'm not so sure if SSD's are more reliable in all cases. A device that is mobile like a laptop I do think it is a better fit. But even still, the amount of data on the device that is altered wears it. I've now replaced a good dozen of SSD's which are just worn out this year. Granted these were early versions of SSD's & we are very hard on constant changing of data on these laptops so that could be a factor as well. But, the point still remains SSD's do wear out. A HD over it's lifetime can be rewritten a lot more times, but the mechanics of the drive can fail. If its in a desktop or NAS device that is not being moved about it a HD drive is still ideal. Now in a data center using SSD's as a front end storage makes sense as the speed it offers across the servers has its advantages. But, unlike desktops & laptops this data is not altered as often and better quality SSD's are used (more expensive) and use high speed inter-connections.

Update: its five years later with this entry A lot has changed! SSD's are now 1000's of times better than what we were using back then. In fact just a year later we encountered no SSD failures! We moved to Samsung and we continued to use them with I think just one failure in the last five years. Other vendors have also improved too with their quality! Today we use SSD's throughout our systems both laptop & desktop. HD's are now mostly used for bulk storage of data.

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Theoretically - yes it can be done, only you know your abilities. Detailed Removal 2TB HD Plus Install 4TB HD + Formating. Familiarize yourself with opening exchanging the drive in the previous model, then look at the teardown (not a guide) for the new one.

Take lots of notes and pictures. Use the recommended tools (every job is easier if you use the proper tools). You can write and publish the guide for this.

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I am not sure what you would gain from the SSD apart from its low temps. There would be no speed advantage as you would be operating through ethernet at best. A quality HDD would easily saturate that bandwidth.

There is a major issue with how it would be mounted though. The TC does not have traditional mounting points. The HDD is held in with rubber corners and a 'pressure' plate holding it all in. Even if you get a caddy it will likely not fit. Basically you need a standard HDD 'shape'.

Also the TC spins the drive down when not in use. I am wondering if this would possibly cause problems with an SSD.

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You would gain reliability. The Samsung 840 Evo Pro has been tested to last longer than you could possibly live.

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Maybe in a few years I could see this as worth it (cheaper SSD's). Today I don't see it. I would rather spend the money on a directly attached Thunderbolt RAID'ed drive sub system than putting it into a TC. That way I would gain the speed and the reliability.

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The Evo or the Pro? There is no 840 Evo Pro. Plus they have not been tested to last as long as a humans live. Plus their test environments use TRIM on a computer and the ATC does not use TRIM. You would be mad to put an SSD in an ATC. There are no fittings for a 2.5". The fit relies on pressure based on a 3.5" chassis. Just get a quality HDD.

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Sir, you said :"Also the TC spins the drive down when not in use. I am wondering if this would possibly cause problems with an SSD." What do you mean by saying the TC spins the HDD and what is the mechanism behind? Interested to know.

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I did it out of curiosity. I used a StarTech 2.5”to 3.5” drive converter/enclosure. It is exactly the size of a full HD, no bevel recesses. You would need to demolish the rubber padding in the time capsule. I feel like a dremel cut on the StarTech enclosure would make an easier fit. As far as backup speed, a ~300GB first back up reported a 2hour completion time. Whereas the traditional HD was something like 6. This was over Ethernet.

I’m eyeballing a 4TB WD Red NAS SSD. This is unless some better option comes along, price vs. storage. I’ll do a guide, if that happens.

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Pete, thanks for posting this! Looks like you were average about 41 MB/s over ethernet - very impressive. I understand you are eyeballing a 4TB WD Red NAS SSD, but which SSD are you using right now? I'd like to research this to figure out which SSD draws the least amount of power, to not add a significant burden to the Time Capsule's power supply.

Dragos, below, says he used a 2TB SanDisk Ultra 3D SSD and his Time Capsule realized similar throughput at 40 MB/s.

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Mounting an SSD in the empty hall of where the HDD used to be is simple enough: double sided tape.

Just stick it on the inside wall and that’s it.

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So, what happened? Can it be done? I would really like to expand the storage in my Time Capsul

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Well, there are newer HDD's which are larger (storage-wise) but you do need to review the physical size of these newer drives, as the drive can is often larger which would be an issue trying to fit in the limited space the TC has.

If you really need more space I don't think a TC is the right way to go. I would strongly recommend sticking with an external Thunderbolt RAID'ed drive.

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Thanks. I actually have a Synology RAID as well 5TB but I haven’t found a reliable way to use Time Machine using the RAID. But maybe will have to look into it more.

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I wonder if there’s a way to do a double-drive SSD configuration for the Apple Time Capsule.

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No. There is only one sata point on the logic board. Plus the transfer speed is bottled necked on the time capsule. It is slow, no matter what the drive. So just get a HDD twice the size of the two SSDs you wish to use. And mount points only work with a 3.5" drive. It is a squeeze fit with rubber. No screws. Although you could probably somehow secure a 2.5" drive in there.

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what about a hybrid hdd

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As I said. Same goes for a hybrid. There is simply no speed benefit from a SSD or Hybrid. Plus you must use a 3.5" drive.

"I am not sure what you would gain from the SSD apart from its low temps. There would be no speed advantage as you would be operating through ethernet at best. A quality HDD would easily saturate that bandwidth.

There is a major issue with how it would be mounted though. The TC does not have traditional mounting points. The HDD is held in with rubber corners and a 'pressure' plate holding it all in. Even if you get a caddy it will likely not fit. Basically you need a standard HDD 'shape'.

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A Seagate FireCuda should work!

While acces via WiFi won't offer much benefit swapping to SSD access via Ethernet would!

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they have ssd adapters to fit in place of HDD for $15 on amazon. if not just let the SSD hang. i’m just wondering if the drive is any faster, I bet if you hard wired TC to Mac you are backing up on via CAT6 cable your speeds would somehow get faster than HDD. i’m going to try it out myself and not reveal test results on this forum. you should do the same

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The HDD is a press fit with rubber corners. Totally unconventional. Side HDD mounts for a 2.5" SDD will do nothing. Hanging is not good as it is all mounted upside down. Unless you want it to hang upwards... The SATA ribbon cable is very short (1/2") so it is not advised. If someone really want to put an SDD inside I would try and make some sort of padding. But it does get hot in the device so you'll likely burn your house down. There is absolutely nothing to gain from using an SSD. The bottleneck is the TC network transfer speed. A good HDD saturates the network capability of the TC. The best option is a low RPM low heat HDD, it will still work at the max speed of the TC network transfer speed.

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i did a conversion of ssd on time capsule and here is the truth, for some unknown reason the transfer speed is way lower than HDD over WIFI, and my reason for upgrade was the Sound of speed down and up, TC is located near me when i use it and the sound of it is very uncomfortable, i guess there is another alternative i would try next and its hybrid drive, cheaper and hopefully without any speed over wifi loss.

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And what about wired speeds? How do they compare (SSD vs HDD)?

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i did not try wired, using macbook 12" to operate TC over WIFI only

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Well, my speeds are as follows (ATC latest gen. with a 2TB SanDisk Ultra 3D SSD):

- Win 7 HP laptop (433 Mbps WiFi ac): 13.5 MB/s up, 14.5 MB/s down

- iMac 2011 (1Gbps wired ethernet): 40 MB/s up, 53 MB/s down

Test data: one 19GB file.

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