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Seek Wisdom for Saving my “iMac” (or, help me fix this White Elephant)

I will apologize in advance for such a lengthy post, but some things just can’t be explained in a few words. Also I am new to this forum and don’t know if this post is acceptable or not. I’m sure someone will let me know.

As of the last week in February 2018, I became the (un?) proud owner of an Apple iMac Intel "Core Duo" 20”/2.0 GHz, EMC-2105. Ser# QP6170GGU23. Standard RAM has been upgraded to 2 GB, when or by whom I don’t know. Radeon X1600 Video Card was an upgrade at time of purchase (assumption) from 128 MB to 246 MB.

Let me begin by saying that I knew absolutely nothing about an Apple iMac, (other than their reputation) when it was given to me by a golf buddy with the following info; It was passed on to him somewhere in the neighborhood of 2007-2008 from his son, and he had been using it up until 6 months ago when his son upgraded him to a newer model iMac, at which time he unplugged it and put it on a shelf. He had always been happy with it and “it was working great when he stopped using it”. He has no documentation, manual, start up discs, nothing, and did not know the OS, version, zip. I have a Mac, power cord, wireless keyboard, and a wireless Mighty Mouse.

So I brought it home, plugged it in, waited for the chime and the boot……...and nothing……..but a Black Screen. No chime, no sounds at all, nothing but the little white glowing indicator light below the right corner of the screen. (Which according to the owner’s manual found online, indicates it’s in sleep mode?) And can’t get it to wake up!

I’ve been using computers since the late 80’s I think, and all have been desktop PC’s. Apple prices have always been beyond my budget. Other than a few memory upgrades, and fan replacements, I’ve left repairs to a repair technician. My technical abilities are not in question. When my 10 yr old iPod Classic recently crashed, the only thing Apple I have ever owned, I totally refurbished it. (with the help of “ifixit” I should add) So I feel pretty comfortable with tearing into this thing, and finding out what makes it un-tick. I will probably need help in the computer knowledge area with terms and lingo I don’t understand.

As a Retired Senior, I have been a craftsman for a long time, and I love to fix things, especially if it’s a challenge, and cost effective. I know I can purchase a working iMac for what I may spend to repair this one, but I need a new project so I think I want to fix this one if I can, and I will have a new hobby to work on when I can’t golf. Am I totally nuts? Is it worth it? Just don’t try to send me to Apple, I won’t go!

First off, with some help, I need to figure out what’s wrong with it to start with. I’ve already covered a lot of ground online through various forums and Apple discussions, and here is what I’ve tried so far that has not worked to solve the problem.

1. Replaced batteries in wireless keypad and mouse. I’m pretty sure they are communicating with the computer in that the little green lights seem to blink at appropriate times.

2. I have removed and replaced the (2) RAM memory cards twice to make sure they were inserted properly. (At this point I don’t know whether they are good or bad.) Purchased (2) new ones, but don’t know why.

3. As previously stated, I don’t have the appropriate install discs, and am looking at a black screen and the little white indicator light, but have cycled through all of the recommended Mac startup key combinations, and power cord routines, to the letter, numerous times to no avail.

4. On my last attempt to restart, and after reading one post/suggestion, I unplugged the power cord from the back of the unit, and while holding the power button down, reconnected the power cord. Immediately the fan came on “at warp speed”, and the little white indicator light went out. But nothing else changed. No restart. Screen still black. I then powered down as normal to stop the fan, then turned it back on as normal, and back to square one. Black screen and little white light. Don’t know what, if anything, that signified.

5. So, if anyone can tell me what all that means, please do. In the meantime I’m almost ready to disassemble my iMac. Before I do, I am gathering cords and connectors to hook up an external monitor. If that doesn’t work, guess I will tear into it and start looking for a reset button (some post says exist), and (4) diagnostic startup LED’s (some posts say don’t exist on my model, and some posts say they do). Hopefully I’ll find a loose connection or something simple. If not, one step at a time, and start buying parts.

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@mayer or @danj could help.


Thanks, I've read most of their posts. Hope they will respond with some good advice.


Just charged my phone thru USB port, whoopi, something works.......!


Installed (2) new memory cards.....(2GB).................nothing.


I had already completed the every mac lookup before my original post, and thought I included all the needed info in my second paragraph. What more is needed? There is a typo in my post, the serial # should read QP6170GGU2S. I used the correct number in the lookup.


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Would have posted this as a “comment”, but too many words, so I guess I’m answering my own question?

So, It's been a little over 9 months since that last comment and since I received little to no help (and I do understand why) thought I would follow up on the direction I took. (Just in case it might be of some assistance to some one out there who might be in the same situation.) In case I didn't mention it before, I had no intention of actually using this computer, I'm not an "Apple" guy, I just wanted to gain the technical experience of refurbishing it. So after my last comment on March 9th (2018) I began the tear-down, with the help of excellent ifixit guides. The first thing I found was that someone had "been there before" me. I think probably to replace the original HD for a 500MB. In my opinion it looked like a child did it. Anyway, for the record NO Diagnostic LEDs on this logic board. (EMC-2105) So I proceed helter skelter! Although there were no indications of any faults in the power supply with the exception of a couple of pretty ugly solder apps, I replaced it with a new one. Still no cigar. Since I had no knowledge of how to test the inverter, or the logic board, I just decided to replace them both. After a thorough clean-up, including repair of the shielding, etc., I plugged it in and “Hallelujah”, it booted right up. I completed the re-assembly, and at this point not having Administative access, I acquired a “Snow Leopard” installation disc on ebay at a good price and performed a “clean install”, erasing all the data of course, and making it all mine. So now it’s restored to original factory issue condition. I have installed “MSWord for iMac”, and now I have a big white paperweight and don’t know what to do with it. Guess it would make someone a good word processor, but what else can you do with an obsolete iMac? Any suggestions out there?

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In retrospect would have up'd the CPU to 2.33 but don't know how much difference it would have made?


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First, never use wireless keyboards or mice when trying to do a repair. The whole system has to successfully load for the computer to even see them. You can't zap the PRAM or do any other keyboard commands. Almost any USB keyboard or mouse will work.

There may be diagnostic LEDs on the bottom edge of the logic board just to the right of the RAM slots. These may have a small;l piece of black tape covering them. This is your best tool for diagnostics.

LED 1 - Indicates that the trickle voltage from the power supply is detected by the main logic board. This LED will remain ON while the iMac is connected to the AC power. The LED will remain on even when the computer has been shut down or put to sleep. The LED will turn off only if the AC power is disconnected or the power supply is faulty.

LED 2 - Indicates that the main logic board has detected proper power from the power supply when the computer is turned on. This LED will be ON when the computer is turned on and the power supply is working correctly.

LED 3 - Indicates that the computer and the video card are communicating. This LED will be ON when the computer is communicating properly with the video card. If LEDs 1 and 2 are ON and you heard the startup sound, but LED 3 is OFF, then the video card might be installed incorrectly or need replacement.

LED 4 - Indicates that the computer and the LCD display panel are communicating. This LED will be ON when the computer is turned on and video signal is being generated. If the LED is ON and there is no image on the LCD display panel, the LCD display panel or inverter might be installed incorrectly or need replacement.

UPDATE 3/9/18

See the answer here for location of the diagnostic LEDs. Let us know your finding:

Are there diagnostic LEDs somewhere on a EMC 2118?

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Thanks @mayer for your prompt response. I thought that might be the case with the keyboard & mouse, but don't have either available right now. As soon as I acquire them, will go from there. Thanks again.


Gordon, I replied to your email. Come back after your start getting some diagnostic results.


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